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Thursday, March 01, 2007


Secretary Rice might still be bleeding from this one.


  • hoooooly cow.

    Is that guy a newscaster or is he trying to become the next democratic candidate?


    Oooh, it felt good, though. It felt good.

    Ignore congress. Chah. Right.

    By Blogger NoSurfGirl, At 12:16 AM, March 02, 2007  

  • I wish we had even one democratic candidate that would speak like that. It would probably be political suicide, but at least we'd know they cared.

    By Blogger Jeff, At 11:15 AM, March 02, 2007  

  • Olbermann is the most dishonest, patently biased broadcast "journalist" on the air today. So much in this latest diatribe is false that it would take hours to dissect it. For example, his characterization of pre-WWII isolationism as a purely Republican phenomenon is a load of crap - the Neutrality Acts of the 1930s were overwhelmingly supported by both parties, and signed into law by a Democratic President: FDR.

    By Blogger Garry, At 12:06 PM, March 05, 2007  

  • Olbermann is the most dishonest, patently biased broadcast "journalist" on the air today.

    Could you please prove this statement by showing how he is any more dishonest or biased than Rush, Hannity, "every liberal is a faggot" Coulter, O'Reilly, or others?

    Perhaps the problem is that all of these people are misnamed. They aren't journalists. They are pundits. They spin, not report. But to say that Olbermann is worse than the others is ridiculous. Just because you disagree with him doesn't make him the worst. I frankly think Coulter is the worst thing to happen to American politics, but it's mostly opinion, not something I can state unequivocally. When I can prove it, you'll be the first to know. :)

    BTW, who else do liberals have on TV? There's no one. If we want punditry on TV that's slanted left, Olbermann is our guy. I frankly don't agree with everything he says, but he's articulate, funny, and courageous.

    As for his diatribe being false, you're going to have to hit the substance of it in order to convince me. The main point is that Rice's comparison between WW2 and Iraq is fundamentally flawed.

    By Blogger Jeff, At 1:52 AM, March 06, 2007  

  • Jeff - Rush, Hannity, et al do not pretend to be objective newscasters as does Olbermann. They are not journalists, and do not attempt to portray themselves as journalists - instead, they are subjective commentators, and clearly identify themselves as such.

    Moreover, they do not flat out lie to the extent that Olbermann does. I noted his misrepresentation of the pre-WWII isolationist movement. You want another recent example? Here's Olbermann in late January, discussing Bush's upcoming SOTU:

    OLBERMANN: Those 16 words in which Mr. Bush had claimed in 2003's address that Iraq had tried to secure weapon-grade uranium from Niger ultimately proving to be false, recent claims from the president that Iran is providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies in Iraq, something he‘s expected to repeat tonight in the State of the Union, proving to be equally suspect.

    This is distortion wrapped in falsehood: in the 2003 SOTU Bush said that "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." Not from Niger, but from Africa (Niger is not the only African nation that exports uranium). Moreover, it was not proven false as Olbermann claims - at least not according to the bi-partisan Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report:

    He said he judged that the most important fact in the report was that the Nigerien officials admitted that the Iraqi delegation had traveled there in 1999, and that the Nigerien Prime Minister believed the Iraqis were interested in purchasing uranium, because this provided some confirmation of foreign government service reporting.

    The above, by the way, is from (speaking of liars) Joe Wilson's report to the CIA on his Niger trip. And we have this from the British Butler Report:

    There was further and separate intelligence that in 1999 the Iraqi regime had also made inquiries about the purchase of uranium ore in the Democratic Republic of Congo. In this case, there was some evidence that by 2002 an agreement for a sale had been reached.

    But perhaps I am being unfair in calling Olbermann a liar. It could be that he is simply unfamiliar with basic facts (even though they are readily available in the public domain), so one cannot rule out the possibility that he is merely an ignorant ass.

    By Blogger Garry, At 12:23 PM, March 09, 2007  

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